Goal $10,000
Fundraising for Cancer Council
Cancer Council
Shitbox Rally Spring 2025
$15,150
Raised
152%
Our Story …

I'm sure you, or someone you know, has had their lives turned upside down by Cancer. LTD Bros are no exception. Thats why, this Spring, we are paticipating in the Shitbox Rally.

Shitbox Rally is the largest community lead fundraiser for Cancer Council in Australia and is now in its 15th year. Part of the participation is that all teams have to raise a minimum of $5,000 but most teams raise well above this amount as you can see with the Spring 2025 rally target set at $2,000,000 plus.

These funds go to Cancer Council and we are extremely proud to be doing our part to support such a worthy charity. The fundraising is the hard part, so any donation you can give is greatly appreciated. Please make sure to follow our progress via this page and the blog post below.

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Here's what I'm doing …

Shitbox Rally is the adventure of a lifetime challenging participants and their cars, worth no more than $1,500, on a 7 day drive across Australia to raise money for cancer research.

The rally is not a race – it’s a fun, colourful, unpredictable adventure with participants travelling at their own pace in smaller groups. Vehicles often break down but “we never leave anyone behind” and each night is spent camping beneath the stars and celebrating the day’s achievements. It all adds up to an incredible opportunity to see Australia’s vast and beautiful countryside and make lifelong friends, many brought together after experiencing cancer themselves or seeing cancer impact family and friends.

Since it’s inception the rally has been the largest fundraiser for the Cancer Council nationally.

raised: $2,587,834
target: $2,000,000
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10 months ago
LTD Bros
Max Lumsden Racing gave $150.00.
10 months ago
Thanks for Kick Starting the campaign Max. Awsome having Max Lumsden Racing on board.
10 months ago
LTD Bros
Matt Knox gave $50.00.
10 months ago
Legend Matt. Much appreciated
10 months ago
LTD Bros
Helen Florance gave $30.00.
10 months ago
Love your work Helen, much appreciated.
10 months ago
LTD Bros
Catherine & Francis Keane gave $200.00.
10 months ago
Thank you Mum & Dad. Lots of love to you both.
10 months ago
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10 months ago
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Waterfront Motor Inn gave $890.00.
10 months ago
The Team at Waterfront Motor Inn are absolute legends. Thanks so much for getting on board the LTD Brothers Machine. We will carry the Waterfront Motor Inn logo with pride.
10 months ago
LTD Bros
Naomi Peters gave $50.00.
10 months ago
Thank you so much Naomi. Keep up the fight, you are a legend.
10 months ago
LTD Bros
Sally Miller gave $50.00.
Go for it lads - prepare yourselves with lots of fresh underwear and the rest…
10 months ago
Love your work Sally. Does turning them inside out give us an extra day out of them?😆
10 months ago
LTD Bros
J Ross Ag Services gave $200.00.
9 months ago
Welcome aboard Jack Ross Ag Services. Great to have you along for the ride. Thanks so much.
10 months ago
LTD Bros
Jen Dorney gave $200.00.
Good on you both. Had a laugh when I saw your photo! Thank you for supporting a great cause xo
9 months ago
Thanks so much Jenny. We will continue to raise as much as we can for those close to you.
10 months ago
LTD Bros
Sandra Heath gave $50.00.
Well done boys! Hope you have a great time on the rally.
9 months ago
Hi Sandra. Wonderful to have you on board. Look out for a video close to you, coming soon.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Paul Daffy gave $200.00.
9 months ago
Thanks so much Paul for getting on board. Your generosity will go directly to where its needed to get ahead of this hideous disease.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Jacinta Noonan gave $50.00.
9 months ago
Love your work Jacinta. Thank you so much for getting behind our fundraising effort.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Sue & Mick Schroeter gave $250.00.
Well done lads. Look forward to following your adventures
9 months ago
Hi Sue & Mick. Really appreciate you getting onboard for this amazing cause. LTD Bros know this one is close to your hearts.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Janice Tieman gave $500.00.
Safe travelling boys!
9 months ago
Janice you are a legend, your donation is amazing. LTD Bros have been following your recent journey. Love the wheels.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Webbys Bodyworks gave $500.00.
Have a blast guys.
9 months ago
Hi Jess, LTD Bros is very excited to have Webbys Body Works come on board for the journey. Thank you for your awsome donation.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Glenda Keane gave $100.00.
9 months ago
Hi Glenda, thank you so much for you donation. Keep following LTD Bros on Facebook for a few laughs.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Kathy McGillivray gave $50.00.
9 months ago
Hi Kathy, LTD Bros loves your donation. Us and the Cancer Council very much appreciate it.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Glenda Hand gave $30.00.
Good luck Danny! Enjoy the adventure.Safe travels. From Glenda & Willy
9 months ago
Thank you Glenda & Willy, much appreciated. Look out for Paul in one of our video's in a few weeks, you will have a giggle for sure.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Macrackin's Shack @ Nelson gave $390.00.
9 months ago
We are wrapped to have Macrakens Shack get board for the journey. We will carry the logo with pride. Look out for a Macraken Shack Video coming your way soon.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Cameron White gave $20.00.
Good work Keaney, hope you make it!! Cam
9 months ago
Thanks Cam, love your work. Just like the Roo Boys, I'm sure we will make it.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Merrilyn McCosh gave $100.00.
Go boys,great cause, love the videos.. keep it up..enjoy the rally.💪🚘🚗🚒
9 months ago
Love your work Merrilyn, every donation makes big a difference. Got a few more silly videos coming to keep you entertained.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Darren Rentsch gave $100.00.
Well done lads, a fantastic cause in supporting our friends and families that are going this. Darren and Joanne
9 months ago
Thanks for getting on board Darren. LTD brothers loves your work.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Susan Hallowell gave $50.00.
9 months ago
Thanks Susan. The spring ralley is hoping to raise about 2.5 million. We are glad to have you with LTD Bros.
9 months ago
LTD Bros
Peter Hall gave $50.00.
9 months ago
Thanks Hally, your a legend. Follow LTD Bros on facebook mate for a few laughs.
8 months ago
LTD Bros
Scubes Owens gave $100.00.
Such a worthy cause, you blokes are doing a wonderful thing for everyone out there that has been affected by cancer. Thank you very much, it’s appreciated. Love Scubes and Renee Owens
8 months ago
Much appreciated Scubes & Renee. We know this cause is close to your hearts. Your both legends. LTD Bros will try to raise as much as we can.
8 months ago
LTD Bros
Rae & John Lumsden gave $140.00.
Good luck boys! Safe travels Have fun!
8 months ago
Thats awsome Mum & Dad. We are so greatful to have you on board. Love the LTD Bros.
8 months ago
LTD Bros
Rae John & Zara Lumsden gave $140.00.
Hope these donations can help. Have a great time!
8 months ago
Hi Rae, John & Zara. Yes, your donation is helping. Ltd-bros and the Cancer Council are thrilled to have you on board. Follow our journey.
8 months ago
LTD Bros
Andre Willis gave $100.00.
Give it a red hot crack lads. Love it. Great cause. Happy to support. Rock on.
8 months ago
Gday Andre, thank you for your donation. We can assure you LTD Bros will deffinatly be giving it a crack. Awsome to have you on board.
8 months ago
LTD Bros
Ian Courtney gave $50.00.
👏👏👏
8 months ago
Love your work Cortz. Thanks for getting on board LTD Bros. Keep following our journey.
8 months ago
LTD Bros
Patrick Sharp gave $50.00.
Fantastic work Keaney and the LTD Bros Crew. A very worthy cause that touches so many. Drive safe, stay strong, and fingers crossed for minimal breakdowns!
7 months ago
Welcome aboard Sharpy. Great to have you come along for the journey. Many thanks from LTD Bros.
7 months ago
LTD Bros
P & S GLEESON AGWORKS KOROIT gave $390.00.
7 months ago
Thankyou Paul & Sonia Gleeson. LTD Bros will proudly carry the Gleeson Agworks Koroit name on our journey.
7 months ago
LTD Bros
Jason Greaves gave $100.00.
Get fucked keaney. Hooe you beeakdown in the middle of nowhere. Love A-shift.
7 months ago
Thanks mate, LTD Bros thanks you for your amazing donation and kind words. You should receive your free dictionary in the post any day now.
7 months ago
LTD Bros
Tony McCosh gave $70.00.
Great stuff guys. Have a blast, just a little jealous.
7 months ago
Fantastic Tony. We'll sure have a blast whilst we continuing to raise funds to reach our target for this great cause. LTD Bros.
7 months ago
LTD Bros
Ben Scannell gave $20.00.
7 months ago
Luv your work Ben. You will always be Daniel to LTD Bros mate.
7 months ago
LTD Bros
Anonymous gave $20.00.
Belmont OT Tax
7 months ago
LTD Bros
Matthew Winkler gave $50.00.
Good luck Keene Dream Team
7 months ago
Awsome Winks. LTD Bros are wrapped to have you on board mate. Follow our journey.
7 months ago
LTD Bros
Colleen & Anthony Fitzgerald gave $20.00.
Thank you for fundraising for such a great cause. Have fun.
6 months ago
Thank you Colleen & Anthony. LTD Bros are proud to be raising funds for this great cause.
7 months ago
LTD Bros
Bob & Nance Crouch gave $100.00.
6 months ago
Thanks Bob and Nance. You are a pair of Legends. With your help, LTD Bros are creeping up to our fundraising target.
6 months ago
LTD Bros
Leon Nevrous gave $200.00.
Cheers Danny, Hope you have a great rally, Stay safe, From Leon and Rick
6 months ago
Thank you Leon & Rick for your amazing donation. LTD Bros are stoked you have come on board to support our fundraising for the cancer council.
6 months ago
LTD Bros
McLean Computer Solutions gave $200.00.
Great job Dan and Dave with the fundraiser for a great cause.
6 months ago
Brad, Ltd-bros are looking forward to a great rally. Thank you for your generous donation to a great cause.
6 months ago
LTD Bros
Charlie Noonan gave $50.00.
6 months ago
Love your work Charlie. Awsome to have you on board. Follow our journey.
6 months ago
LTD Bros
Gardiner Agricultural Services Pty Ltd gave $200.00.
6 months ago
Big shout out to you Peter from LTD Bros. Thank you so much for supporting our cancer council fundraising.
6 months ago
LTD Bros
Stewart McKane gave $100.00.
Do it for Deb
6 months ago
Thank you Stewart, LTD Bros knows this cause is close to you both. We will continue to rally for you and Deb.
6 months ago
LTD Bros
Gerard Kearney gave $100.00.
Well done guys,legends 👍🌵
6 months ago
Your a Legend Cactus. A massive thanks from the LTD Bros.
5 months ago
LTD Bros
Anonymous gave $20.00.
OT Tax Belmont. Good luck LTD-BROS.
5 months ago
LTD Bros
Lachie Davis gave $20.00.
5 months ago
Love your work Lachie, thanks for getting on board LTD Bros.
5 months ago
LTD Bros
Mary Groenewegen gave $500.00.
Good luck Danny and Dave. Hope you enjoy the journey. Mary and Dom
5 months ago
Thank you Mary & Dom for your very generous donation to our Cancer Council fundraising effort. Great to have you on board with LTD Bros. Follow our journey on Facebook.
5 months ago
LTD Bros
Thomas Groenewegen gave $50.00.
5 months ago
Thank you Thomas. Its great to have you on board LTD Bros. With your help we are edging closer to our 10,000 target. Follow our journey on facebook.
5 months ago
LTD Bros
Anonymous gave $10.00.
Belmont OT Tax
5 months ago
LTD Bros
Hannah Groenewegen gave $100.00.
5 months ago
Thank you Hannah for your generous donation to the Cancer Council. Every dollar is making a difference. Follow our Journey on Facebook and instagram.
5 months ago
LTD Bros
Danny Keane gave $1,205.00.
From the Keane girls who have come together to support the LTD Bros in their quest to raise money for the Cancer Council. Good luck boys.
5 months ago
To all the Keane Girls who came together and raised this amazing amount of money for the Cancer Council, massive thank you from the LTD Bros.
5 months ago
LTD Bros
Ross Surkitt gave $50.00.
4 months ago
Thank you so much for supporting LTD Bros. We are very exited as we approach our fundraising target for the Cancer. Follow our journey, regards LTD Bros.
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Carolyn & Malcolm Bishop gave $50.00.
4 months ago
Hi Mal & Carolyn. LTD Bros are wrapped to have you on board. We know this is a cause close to you both. Regards LTD Bros
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Lawfords Farms Pty Ltd gave $1,000.00.
Safe trip Danny and Dave with the fundraiser supporting the Cancer Council .
4 months ago
Thank you Angela & Anthony for your amazing contribution to the Cancer Council. Hopefully together we can make a difference. Regards LTD Bros.
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Mallory Keane gave $70.00.
From Mallory, Lizzy and Laura 💛💙
4 months ago
Mallory, Lizzie & Laura, you are legends. Your donation is making a big difference. Regards LTD Bros.
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Anonymous gave $30.00.
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Ken Lumsden gave $250.00.
Good luck guys Ken and Kaye Lumsden
4 months ago
Hi Ken and Kaye, thank you so much for supporting our Cancer Council Fundraiser. Regards LTD Bros
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Giblin Family Homes P/L gave $500.00.
Great cause David & Danny. All the best in the rally. Steve & Sue
4 months ago
Hi Steve and Sue. Thank you for your amazing contribution to the Cancer Council. It's wonderful to have you on board the LTD Bros. Follow our journey.
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Heath McDougall gave $100.00.
Have a great time, hope the shitbox ford makes the distance.
4 months ago
Thanks Heath, you are a legend for supporting the cause. LTD Bros are also hopeful our Shitbox can make the journey.
4 months ago
LTD Bros
John Schrama gave $200.00.
Great cause Dave & Dan. Very pleased to be able to support you both
4 months ago
Thank you Mavis & John. LTD Bros knows this cause is close to your hearts. We are proud to have you on board.
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Des and Carmel Noonan gave $200.00.
Good luck on the ride. Have fun while raising money for a great cause.
4 months ago
Hi Des & Carmel, LTD Bros are so greatful to have you on board for our Cancer Council fundraising. Follow our journey.
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Teresa & Ray Mahony gave $100.00.
Great work guys for a great cause,safe travels!
4 months ago
Hi Teresa & Ray. Thanks for supporting The LTD Bros and the Cancer Council. Welcome aboard
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Brad Trewavis gave $50.00.
Great work Keany, hats off to anyone prepared to drive that shitbox.
4 months ago
Love your work Brad. We will get our shitbox over the line, maybe. Thanks for the support. Regards LTD Bros
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Patricia Morris gave $200.00.
Well done Stay safe Have fun Cheers Bert+Joan Morris
4 months ago
Hi Joan & Bert, great to hear from you both. Thank you for suppoting our fundraising effort. Regards LTD Bros
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Lynco Enterprises T/A Goodyear Autocare Warrnambool gave $500.00.
Good Luck Snibbles and Lumo from the team at Goodyear Autocare Warrnambool.
4 months ago
To Sid and all the team at Goodyear Tyre and Auto Care its awsome to have you guys on board LTD Bros. Your generosity is helping us get closer to a cure. Regards LTD bros
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Trish & Barry Brody gave $50.00.
Good luck lads
4 months ago
Hi Trish & Barry. Thanks for Supporting the LTD Bros fundraising. Love your work.
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Bob & Dot Shanahan gave $20.00.
Good luck boys
4 months ago
Gday Bob & Dot. Great to have you both along for the ride. LTD Bros knows this cause is one close to you. Thanks again LTD Bros
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Pam and John Dorman gave $100.00.
Good luck guys John and Pam Dorman
4 months ago
Gday John & Pam. Thank you for supporting our great cause. Awsome to have you on board. Regards LTD Bros
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Rosalee Paton gave $20.00.
Safe travels
3 months ago
Gday Rosalee, thank you for supporting our rally for cancer research. Regards LTD Bros
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Stuart Smith gave $50.00.
Brilliant effort, good luck!
3 months ago
Love your work Stuart, Assies to win the Ashes. Keep dream alive. Love LTD Bros.
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Sharrock Mark gave $50.00.
Have an awesome trip boys. Your doing great work for a great cause.
3 months ago
Thanks Mark for getting on board our fight against Cancer. Rally Hard, regards LTD Bros.
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Mum & Dad Lumsden gave $140.00.
Safe travels.XO
3 months ago
Thanks for being great supporters of our fundraising. Love your work. LTD Bros
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Mitchell Keane gave $25.00.
3 months ago
Hi Mitchell, thank you for suppprting the search for a cure. Regards LTD Bros
4 months ago
LTD Bros
FRV Station 64 Belmont gave $250.00.
Safe travel LTD Bros. Enjoy your journey accross the outback.
3 months ago
Love your work FS 64. Regards LTD Bros
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Cooba Dylewski gave $20.00.
Rip it up! Have an awesome drive!
3 months ago
Gday Cooba. We will surely be ripping it up on our way to finding a cure. Regards LTD Bros.
4 months ago
LTD Bros
Jason Russell gave $200.00.
Safe travels lads
3 months ago
A massive thank you to the whole Russell clan, you are absolute legends. From the LTD Bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Erica & Damien Clifford gave $50.00.
Safe travels!
3 months ago
Great to have you on board. Cancer research is benifiting from your generosity. Regards LTD Bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
LS Design Warrnambool gave $100.00.
3 months ago
Thanks Lachie for all your efforts. The signage on the LTD looks amazing due to your generosity. Love your work. LTD Bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Mr & Mrs Goat gave $100.00.
Safe Travels Guys. Great effort for a great cause xx
3 months ago
To the the Great Goats, outstanding work. Thanks for Rallying hard with us. Regards LTD Bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Jane Clarke gave $100.00.
Good luck guys Jane ( Lumsden ) Clarke
3 months ago
Great to have you on board Jane. Hopefully we can fund a cure together. Regards LTD Bros.
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Colin & Ann-Maree Surkitt gave $50.00.
Awesome effort well done. Safe travels and enjoy your adventure
3 months ago
Hi Colin & Ann-Maree, thank you so much for supporting our fundraising. Regards LTD Bros.
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Simone Hoffmann gave $50.00.
3 months ago
Hi Simone, thankyou for supporting our Rally Fundraising. Together we can fund a cure. Regards LTD Bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Elders Rural Services gave $200.00.
Have a great time guys! All the Best Elders Warrnambool
3 months ago
Thanks Patto for supporting our Cancer Council fundraising. Hopefully together we are Finding a cure. Regards LTD Bros.
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Christine & Tim Schrama gave $100.00.
Have a blast boys. Safe travels 💛💛
3 months ago
To Tim & Christine, your amazing support is the major force behind our fundraising. We couldn't have got this far without you. Love you both. LTD Brothers.
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Jo Anne Hancy gave $50.00.
3 months ago
Hi Jo Anne. Thankyou for supporting our cause for a cure. Rally Hard. Regards LTD Bros.
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Sandra Keane gave $100.00.
You boys are legends, so many of us have loved ones that have been touched by cancer. Have the best time raising awareness, safe travels
3 months ago
Hi Sandra, love your work as always. If we rally hard, hopefully together we all make the difference. Regards LTD Bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Scott Gapes gave $200.00.
Congratulations boys in your quest to assist those affected by cancer, not msny families are left untouched by this horrible disease..hope you are also having fun on your travels, see you at the finish line. Scott, Janine Gapes & family.
3 months ago
Hi Scott and Janine. Thank you for your support for our Cancer Council Fundraising. You are Legends. Regards LTD bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Barry King gave $400.00.
Hope the LTD. makes the journey - the Kingys
3 months ago
Gday Barry & Johnny. You blokes are absolute legends. Thank you for your amazing donation. Regards LTD bros. Rally Hard
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Harry Keane gave $200.00.
Go Dan and Dave
3 months ago
Hi Harry. Thanks mate, you are legend. Rally Hard. Regards LTD Bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Sarah Sinclair gave $50.00.
3 months ago
Hi Sarah. Thank you for supporting our Cancer Council Fundraising. Regards LTD bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Owen Tudball gave $50.00.
Awesome work dudes, great effort. PS: I know you and the LTD will get the job done
3 months ago
Love your work OFX. We hate to say it but the dark side has been a great joice so far. Regards LTD bros.
3 months ago
LTD Bros
David Hayes gave $50.00.
Have fun guys!
3 months ago
Hi David. Your support is much appreciated. Regards LTD bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Sandra Heath gave $100.00.
Great job!
3 months ago
Thank you so much Sandra. LTD Bros loves your work.
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Ross & Christine Henkel gave $100.00.
3 months ago
Hi Ross & Christine. LTD-BROS knows this is a cause close to you. You are absolute legends. Regards LTD-BROS.
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Ray Harrington gave $100.00.
Safe travels! From Ray and Marita Harrington.
3 months ago
Hi Ray & Marita. Thank you so much for your support. Regards LTD bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Harry Noonan gave $60.00.
3 months ago
Thanks Haz. Together we are making a difference. Regards LTD bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Adrian Doe gave $100.00.
Great trip for a great cause!
3 months ago
Your legend Doey. Thanks for jumping on board. Regards LTD bros.
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Jason Stein gave $50.00.
Trip of a lifetime 👏
3 months ago
Thanks Jason for supporting our Cancer Council fundraising effort. Together we can make a difference. Regards LTD bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Andrea Bellman gave $50.00.
Awesome cause many have been hit by. Enjoy the drive and hope you raise more.
3 months ago
Hi Andrea, thank you some much for getting on board for our Cancer council fundraising. Regards LTD bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Krystal Coote gave $50.00.
Love watching your journey - great work!! The Cootes
3 months ago
Hi Krystal. Thank you for supporting our Cancer Council fundraising. Together we are making a difference. Regards LTD bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Dale March gave $50.00.
Good work DK and Dave. Good to see you out of the tunnels of work and doing an awesome effort. Fingers crossed for the LTD but I’m sure what ever she throws up to you guys you will overcome. Well done fellas, and I think DK you may have a new calling of social media, love it!!
3 months ago
Love your work Marchy. Unfortunately DK will be back in the tunnels soon enough. Thanks for Rallying hard with us. Regards LTD bros
3 months ago
LTD Bros
Brett Gladki gave $50.00.
3 months ago
Hi Brett. Thank you for getting on board. Together with your help we are all rallying to make a difference. Regards LTD bros.
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The Impact, Outcomes & Charity

Shitbox Rally is a dedicated fundraising event for cancer research with funds going to Cancer Council.

Cancer Council is one of the largest non-government funders of cancer research in Australia. We conduct and fund research studies across all cancers and all stages of the cancer journey.

Thanks to the community funds raised such as Shitbox Rally we can fund world-class research that reduces the impact of cancer for everyone.

$59 million over the past 15 years has been raised by Box Rallies to date, supporting ground-breaking projects such as:

  • A research study to develop a vaccine that protects against lymphoma cancers.
  • A research trial to standardise international guidelines on melanoma removal.
  • A research grant to revolutionise the treatment of pancreatic cancer.

These projects wouldn’t be possible without your support.